1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:27,600 What is the secret of the fake ears of the east? 2 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:34,840 What gives them the power to defy the pain of hooks and spikes? 3 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,720 How can people walk unharmed on red hot coals? 4 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:46,040 Why do so few suffer agonizing burns? 5 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,200 In the west, these Californians are hoping to walk on fire. 6 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,520 They believe the power of the mind will keep them safe. 7 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,440 But is faith enough? 8 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Is there more they should know before they take their first step onto the fire? 9 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:08,080 Mysteries from the files of Arthur C. Clarke, scientist, writer and visionary, the scientist 10 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:13,880 who invented the communication satellite, the writer of 2010, and now in retreat in 11 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,320 Sri Lanka, the visionary who ponders the riddles of this and other worlds. 12 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:56,040 This is Katharangama, perhaps the holiest place in Sri Lanka, and one of the great shrines 13 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,680 of the world. 14 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,080 It's sacred to Hindus, Muslims and Buddhists. 15 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:07,240 And throughout the year, pilgrims come to make offerings at the temple. 16 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:12,240 And to bathe in the manic ganga. 17 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:17,680 For two weeks every August, Katharangama is an extraordinary sight, thronged with crowds 18 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,920 of pilgrims, undergoing painful ordeals to atone for past misdeeds. 19 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:27,680 Some walk here from miles on shoes of nails. 20 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:33,360 Others pierce their flesh with hooks and spikes. 21 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:46,560 The crowds come from all over Sri Lanka to honour Scanda, the Katharangama god. 22 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,240 Those who make the pilgrimage of pain believe that the greater their suffering, the more 23 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:59,360 the god will look on them with favour. 24 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,160 To onlookers, these feats of faith look unbearably painful. 25 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,840 But strangely, the pilgrims who perform them don't really seem to be in agony. 26 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:13,640 Their convinced Scanda protects them with a supernatural power. 27 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:17,720 Putting such miracles under the microscope is the speciality of physiology professor 28 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,680 Carlo Fonseca. 29 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:25,120 He studied the strangest of all the Katharangama rituals, hook-hanging. 30 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:33,360 Many people believe that this is in fact miracle, because on the face of it there are several 31 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,720 fantastic things about the whole procedure. 32 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:43,000 But I have looked into this rather carefully and I am quite convinced that it can be explained 33 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,680 in terms of physics and physiology. 34 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:55,760 At the Colombo Medical Faculty, this volunteer hook-hanger has been helping Fonseca's investigations. 35 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,280 The experiment is strictly supervised by the doctors. 36 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,680 Each hook is sterilised to keep infection at bay. 37 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,800 For hook-hanging is dangerous. 38 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,680 Fonseca first set out to discover why the hooks cause so little bleeding. 39 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,920 He found that the trick is to pinch up the hangers' skin. 40 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:22,800 If you watch how they actually do it, the skin and the underlying tissues are pinched up. 41 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,360 Pinching up tissues obliterates the blood vessels in the region. 42 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:34,160 The hook is inserted and tension is maintained on the hook by means of a string, so that 43 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,480 it remains pinched up. 44 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,320 But why don't the hooks tear the hangers back? 45 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Fonseca realised that the number of hooks was crucial. 46 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,040 There must be enough to spread the load. 47 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,600 Hook-hangers use at least six hooks. 48 00:04:51,600 --> 00:05:00,920 And these six hooks are so placed that there is an even distribution of the weight. 49 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,520 This young man, he is about 120 pounds in weight. 50 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:10,680 So each hook has a strain of 120 divided by 6. 51 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,160 That's 20 pounds. 52 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:18,880 And such a strain, normal, healthy human tissue can bear without snapping. 53 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:25,840 On the other hand, if any devotee hangs by one hook, undoubtedly the hook will tear through 54 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:30,440 the flesh and he will plummet to the ground. 55 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,640 Yet this does not fully explain why the hooks cause so little pain. 56 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:56,920 Fonseca concluded that mental attitude is the key, that for devotees ecstasy is a powerful 57 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:02,160 anaesthetic, but that this experiment shows religious belief is not necessary. 58 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:07,480 For this man's happy to hang about and smoke, putting his faith in science instead of the 59 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,480 supernatural. 60 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:16,480 But Caliph Fonseca, his calm behaviour proves the point. 61 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:21,160 This is a manifestation of his lack of faith in religious ritual. 62 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,040 He needs no divine aid of any kind to do this. 63 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:37,360 This is entirely of his own steam. 64 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,680 So effective is the pinching up procedure that even when the hooks are taken out, the 65 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:48,000 wounds do not bleed. 66 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,360 And Fonseca believes the same elementary principles of physics and physiology protect even the 67 00:06:53,360 --> 00:07:02,640 devotees at Caterugama. 68 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,160 The climax of the festival is a fire walk on the final day. 69 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:13,040 To a mere spectator, it's amazing to see the pilgrims walking on red hot coals with their 70 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,040 bare feet. 71 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,360 There's no doubt that they do walk on fire. 72 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,120 Why don't they get burnt? 73 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:25,320 Why do they feel no pain? 74 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,320 At Caterugama, dozens of pilgrims brave the fire pit. 75 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:35,760 They believe the heat will purge their sins. 76 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:42,280 The temperature of the coals measured by skeptical scientists reaches 800 degrees centigrade, 77 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:50,960 yet men and women stroll across them without blisters or burns. 78 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:58,200 The Caterugama fire walk is one of many that take place throughout the world. 79 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,320 Each May at Langadas in Greece, the villagers celebrate the festival of St. Constantine 80 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:14,440 and St. Catherine with a night of fire walking. 81 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:30,840 In Japan, the Yamabushi regularly lead the faithful over searing cinders. 82 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:36,240 At San Pedro Manrique, Spain, there's a fire walk on St. John's Eve. 83 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,520 In 1969, the villagers were joined by a visiting American, John Harmon McElroy. 84 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,320 We were the kind of coals that are pulsing white on the edges. 85 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,240 It wasn't orgy, it was white hot. 86 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,400 The instructions we had were very simple. 87 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,560 They brushed their feet clean of twigs or anything else that was flammable before they 88 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:59,000 stepped up on the coals. 89 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:06,320 They put their feet down very flat and very hard and they kept moving. 90 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,040 We followed those simple instructions. 91 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,720 My friend and I had what was for me the most exhilarating experience I think that I've 92 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,440 ever had in my life. 93 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,640 In the South Pacific, islanders amble regularly over roasting rocks. 94 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:26,680 And on Bora Bora, curiosity impelled a surgeon to risk his skin, Dr. Gerald Fegan. 95 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:29,200 It was a pretty formidable looking thing. 96 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:35,680 It was just a long bed of incandescent red rocks. 97 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:43,160 Anyway, I found myself leaning down, taking off my shoes and socks, and walking over to 98 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,200 the front of the fire walk. 99 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,080 And one of the natives took my hand. 100 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:54,120 And it felt so hot when you got close to it that you felt you were being fried. 101 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:59,480 And yet when you walked on it, your feet and your knees, up to your knees, felt cold. 102 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,160 I have no explanation for it at all. 103 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:09,880 I can explain a lot of medical things, but not that. 104 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,400 But one American group claims it can explain the fire walking mystery. 105 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:21,040 At the Insights Center on Wilshire Boulevard in Santa Monica, the answer costs only $100. 106 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:29,040 A fire walk is the climax of a seminar designed to boost people's confidence and help them 107 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:39,040 conquer their fears. 108 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,480 Instructor Tony Robbins believes positive thinking is all that's needed. 109 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,640 I've taken 3,500 people across the coals in the last eight months alone, everything from 110 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,040 a seven-year-old boy to a 78-year-old man. 111 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,040 In that time, I've also seen people who had burned, and they all had equal thickness of 112 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,040 skin. 113 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,800 They all had equal supposed perspiration. 114 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,640 The difference was, when that person's thinking was, how are they thinking and what were their 115 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:02,640 belief systems? 116 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,480 So this process teaches them how to align their beliefs to get whatever they want out 117 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,480 of their life. 118 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,680 And the fire walk is just a symbol, a practical example of what they can do. 119 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:16,240 The students spend four hours psyching themselves up to face the fire. 120 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:21,040 One technique is to shout cool moss to convince themselves their feet won't burn. 121 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:30,800 One, two, three. 122 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:44,480 The fire is almost ready, and so are the fire walkers. 123 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,480 All they need is belief. 124 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:59,360 As I take the first step, my body will do whatever it takes to protect itself. 125 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:09,120 As I take the first step, my body will do whatever it takes to protect itself. 126 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:31,080 Take a look at the coals. 127 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,120 Aren't they pretty? 128 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,080 Look at the coals right now, and as you look at them, make your fist. 129 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,720 Breathing like you would, what will you say? 130 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,720 That's right. 131 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,720 I can do it. 132 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:45,720 That's right, you can. 133 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,720 Come forward. 134 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:47,720 Come forward. 135 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,720 Here's your own pace. 136 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:57,720 Cool moss, cool moss, cool moss, cool moss, cool moss, cool moss. 137 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:58,720 I just think I can do it. 138 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,720 Oh, man! 139 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:08,240 Come on, come on, come on! 140 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,200 All right, take a deep breath. 141 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:20,200 Cool moss, cool moss, cool moss, cool moss. 142 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,200 Great! 143 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,100 Oh, wow. 144 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:23,000 Yeah! 145 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:23,900 Ah! 146 00:13:29,900 --> 00:13:30,600 Oh, my God. 147 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,400 I did it. 148 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,520 I ever, it's fantastic. 149 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,920 I've never done anything like it in my life. 150 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,420 Oh. 151 00:13:37,420 --> 00:13:39,160 Ah. 152 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,360 At the medical faculty in Colombo, 153 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,640 a series of experiments has convinced Professor Fonseca 154 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,960 that there's more to fire walking than positive thinking. 155 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,840 There is a lot of clap, trap, and mumbo-jumbo 156 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,000 associated with this phenomenon. 157 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,080 I have looked into this very carefully. 158 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,800 And as of now, I am quite convinced 159 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,120 that the whole phenomenon is explicable in terms 160 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,560 of quite elementary physics and physiology. 161 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:08,720 Well, of course, we're not the first to do this kind of experiment. 162 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,800 Many other doctors and scientists 163 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,000 have tried this and come up with a rather wide range of clues 164 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,520 to the fire walking mystery. 165 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,880 Harry Price was one of the first. 166 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:25,360 In 1935, he organized this fire walk at Carshelton in Surrey. 167 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,280 He burned eight tons of oak and pine in a 25-foot trench. 168 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,080 After several hours, the logs were burning fiercely. 169 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,360 The heat was intense. 170 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,960 Carshmiri Kudabucks was the subject of the experiment. 171 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,880 He'd done the fire walk many times. 172 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,680 The doctor confirmed that Bucks' feet showed no signs 173 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,400 of special preparation. 174 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,320 An amateur quickly came to grief, 175 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,880 but Kudabucks survived both walks unsinged. 176 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,760 Harry Price did remarkably well 177 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,160 and learned a great deal from his experiments. 178 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,880 His main conclusions were, 179 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,480 fasting and trances were completely unnecessary. 180 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,680 And he was able to do the same. 181 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,920 Finally, he noticed that the walkers' feet 182 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,120 never stayed in contact with the coals 183 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,960 for more than half a second. 184 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,120 One theory is that fire walkers wet their feet, 185 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,920 which would cool them and help to quench the fire. 186 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,520 But there may be more to it than that, 187 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,400 as this experiment may demonstrate. 188 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,080 I have a hot plate here. 189 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,080 It's fairly warm. 190 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,560 I'm going to spread it out. 191 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,040 I'm going to spread it out. 192 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:11,560 I'm going to spread it out. 193 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,080 I'm going to spread it out. 194 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,440 Every other one of these 왔ome plates 195 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,440 ready to설aose pat forget the hot plate here. 196 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,440 It's fairly warm, 197 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,280 and I'm going to sprinkle a little water onto it 198 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,140 and you see the drops— 199 00:16:25,140 --> 00:16:28,480 quickly spread out and evaporate. 200 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,360 But if this plate is really hot, 201 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,240 something quite different happens. 202 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Now the hot plate is really hot, almost glowing. 203 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,240 I'm going to sprinkle some water up. 204 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,880 forms a little bead and skitters around like a tiny hovercraft, 205 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,380 floating on a cushion of steam, 206 00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:50,180 which protects it from the heat of the hot plate. 207 00:16:50,180 --> 00:16:52,380 And it could survive for many seconds, 208 00:16:52,380 --> 00:16:54,180 sometimes as long as a minute. 209 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:56,460 This is called the Leidenfrost effect. 210 00:16:56,460 --> 00:17:00,460 An American scientist, Dr. Gerald Walker of Ohio, 211 00:17:00,460 --> 00:17:03,760 thinks that this explains the firework and phenomenon, 212 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,460 and has put the matter to the test personally. 213 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:09,100 I've got two layers of socks on my feet 214 00:17:09,220 --> 00:17:12,360 and some cellophane inside the socks. 215 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:16,040 I'm trying to trap the sweat inside my feet, 216 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,700 and I'm hoping that the sweat, boy, 217 00:17:17,700 --> 00:17:20,100 this whole area is really hot. 218 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:23,780 I'm hoping that the sweat will do two things for me. 219 00:17:23,780 --> 00:17:26,440 Part of the sweat will help quench part of the coals 220 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,220 that I touch when I walk across these hot coals, 221 00:17:29,220 --> 00:17:30,980 and I'll get a little bit of dead ash. 222 00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:33,360 And I hope some of the other sweat 223 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:35,080 might give me some Leidenfrost effect, 224 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,480 where I get a little bit of vapor layer 225 00:17:36,540 --> 00:17:39,000 between the hot coals and my skin. 226 00:17:40,500 --> 00:17:41,840 I'm gonna sit down. 227 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,080 Even the chair is extremely hot. 228 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,580 But I'm very quickly gonna take off my shoes and socks, 229 00:17:48,580 --> 00:17:51,820 and this piece of cellophane, and walk right across. 230 00:17:51,820 --> 00:17:52,980 I've gotta do it very quickly, 231 00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:55,920 so that the kind of a little breeze through the area 232 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,060 doesn't evaporate all the sweat off my feet, 233 00:17:58,060 --> 00:18:00,360 before I have a chance to get across the coals. 234 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:02,360 And boy, am I scared. 235 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:05,260 I just hope that there's enough protection, 236 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,960 Leidenfrost effect, and a little bit quenching of the fire 237 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,560 to make this work. 238 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,060 I'm gonna do this very quickly. 239 00:18:14,620 --> 00:18:17,400 Both layers, cellophane, and here we go. 240 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,440 A little bit of heat in a few places, 241 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,540 but no massive damage at all. 242 00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:30,720 Leidenfrost effect helped protect my feet, 243 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,140 a little bit of vapor layer, 244 00:18:32,140 --> 00:18:35,080 and probably quenched a little bit of the fire 245 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:36,500 as I went across. 246 00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:38,880 I don't have thick calluses to protect my feet, 247 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,680 just a kind of tender little skin there, 248 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,020 and those physics have protected my feet. 249 00:18:45,020 --> 00:18:47,520 But boy, howdy, don't do this for yourself, 250 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,380 because this is extremely dangerous. 251 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:51,620 You can do massive damage to yourself, 252 00:18:51,620 --> 00:18:54,860 and it's just not worth that kind of damage to your feet. 253 00:18:54,860 --> 00:18:57,860 But that's the Leidenfrost effect in action. 254 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:03,600 If wet feet are the key to fire walking, 255 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,160 what about the sad case of Methodist minister, 256 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,860 Erlich Robinson? 257 00:19:07,860 --> 00:19:10,600 Here in Sri Lanka, in 1952, 258 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,640 he carefully soaked his feet, 259 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,740 then jumped on the coals. 260 00:19:14,740 --> 00:19:16,600 He was badly burned. 261 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,200 It was like animals tearing at my feet, he said. 262 00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:23,140 The state of the fire walker's feet 263 00:19:23,140 --> 00:19:25,320 may be part of the answer. 264 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,220 Karl von Seker has been finding out 265 00:19:27,220 --> 00:19:29,280 how long they can withstand the heat 266 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,820 from an electric light bulb. 267 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,600 He's invented this apparatus to study their souls. 268 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,600 I take the foot of the fire walker, 269 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,600 and I place it, 270 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,600 and switch the light on. 271 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,600 Simultaneously, I start the stopwatch. 272 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,600 I have good evidence, 273 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,600 obtained mainly by using this apparatus, 274 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:02,600 that rough, thick, cold, 275 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,600 wet, and dirty souls 276 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,600 are much more resistant to heat 277 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,600 than souls with the opposite characteristics. 278 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,600 He kept it for as long as 85 seconds. 279 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,600 That is because he is a habitually unshot person, 280 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,600 and his souls are quite thick. 281 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,600 You have to feel them to actually believe 282 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,600 how thick they are. 283 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,600 A soft foot, 284 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:41,600 this boy, he's 15 years old. 285 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,600 He belongs to the younger generation, 286 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,600 and so they are usually shod all the time, 287 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,600 and the feet are quite soft. 288 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Keep his foot on, 289 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,600 heat source, 290 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,600 start this. 291 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,600 Well, that was only five seconds. 292 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,600 So if he does fire walking, 293 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,600 he'll have to traverse the fire pretty fast. 294 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,600 In West Germany, 295 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,600 yet another theory is being tested. 296 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,600 It springs from new discoveries 297 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,600 about the workings of the brain. 298 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,600 Oh, oh, oh, oh, now there's the other side. 299 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,600 That was bad. 300 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,600 That's great. 301 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,600 The experimenters come from the University of Tübingen. 302 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,600 All they get for their pains is a slice of apostrudel. 303 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,600 The man in charge is an expert on pain, 304 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,600 Dr. Wolfgang Labeck. 305 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,600 He wired up an Indian fake ear to an EEG machine 306 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,600 to study his brain waves, 307 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,600 transfixed by spikes through chest, throat and tongue. 308 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,600 He produced special slow waves called theta rhythms, 309 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,600 usually found only in deep sleep. 310 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,600 So can fake ears put their brains to sleep to kill pain, 311 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,600 and can fire walkers do the same? 312 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Now we will see a view as an untrained person 313 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,600 will develop the same rhythms, 314 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,600 which are connected with not feeling pain, 315 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:16,600 because I have the theory that these slowing of the EEG 316 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,600 will mean that the pain perception would be reduced. 317 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,600 Dr. Miltener is wired up to the EEG, 318 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,600 and when he walks on the fire, 319 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,600 any theta rhythms will be recorded via his radio transmitter. 320 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,600 I hope I can control the pain impulses, 321 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,600 and the heat impulses I will show you. 322 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,600 I will show you. 323 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,600 Ah. 324 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,600 Next morning, at his lab in the University of Tübingen, 325 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,600 Dr. Labeck analyses the recordings, searching for theta rhythms. 326 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,600 Let us see if we can find some theta rhythm. 327 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,600 Here is the developing theta rhythm, 328 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600 is mixed up with alpha, 329 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,600 but it's the beginning, theta activity. 330 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,600 So what we have learned from our experiment last day 331 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,600 is that they are even untrained person can develop theta rhythm 332 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:43,600 so that they can switch off their pain perception in fire walking. 333 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,600 In Colombo, the fire is ready at last. 334 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,600 But first, to show they have no supernatural protection, 335 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,600 the walkers deliberately flaunt local religious laws, 336 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,600 downing liquor and chewing pork. 337 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,600 Instead, they have learned to put their faith in science. 338 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,600 They accept that a combination of factors 339 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,600 will take them safely through the fire. 340 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,600 Right. 341 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,600 Speed across the coals, 342 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,600 the rough skin on the soles of their feet, 343 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,600 sweat and the mysterious theta rhythms that seem to banish pain. 344 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Even the professor practices what he preaches. 345 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Hello. 346 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,600 I don't pretend we have all the answers, 347 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,600 but I'm sure we have most of them. 348 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,600 There's nothing supernatural involved in fire walking. 349 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,600 Well, if I'm such an authority on fire walking, 350 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,600 am I good to try it myself? 351 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,600 In the immortal words of Eliza Duttle, 352 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,600 not likely. 353 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,600 I'm content to leave it to the real experts, 354 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,600 and so should you. 355 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,600 Next week, Messages From the Dead. 356 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,600 You